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The 2013 #MozCon Video Bundle is Live!

Posted by EricaMcGillivray

The 2013 MozCon Video Bundle is finally here. Yes, finally! We apologize for the delay, but hope you’re still excited. MozCon 2013 attendees: You should’ve gotten an email with your special code for your video access, which was included with your ticket price (if you didn’t, let us know at community@moz.com).

MozCon 2013 was spectacular! This year, we moved our conference to its new home at the Washington State Convention Center, and we were able to host 1,200 people, including Moz staff and other people helping out. This year saw a monumental 35 speakers! That’s a lot of inbound marketing knowledge.

Dharmesh Shah at MozCon 2013

What MozCon goers said about MozCon’s content

Let’s get down to business. Why should you purchase the MozCon videos? We always try to give you plenty of takeaways to inspire and kick off your next brilliant marketing move. Here’s what MozCon 2013 attendees said about our speakers’ content:

Did you find the MozCon presentations to be advanced enough for you? 73.2% said Yes.

What percentage of the presentations did you find interesting? 55.8% said 80% or more and 36.9% said 50% or more.

All the details on the video bundle

Our videos show both the presenter and their deck, and we include a download of the slide deck so you can flip through it at your leisure. Or just click on those important links. You can stream or download them directly to enjoy on your desktop, laptop, iPad, tablet, Surface, Android phone, iPhone, Windows phone, and those rare Andromeda 4000s, which only work on Mars.

Our dream is that you keep pausing every single talk in order to send emails and IMs filled with new ideas to your team or clients. There are 37 videos—35 speakers + a q&a session + a special Rand Fishkin introduction—to level-up your skills.

For $299 Moz Analytics subscribers ($399 non-subscribers) get instant access to:

  • 37 videos (over 19 hours) from MozCon 2013
  • Stream or download the videos to your computer, iPhone, or Android device
  • Downloadable slide decks of presentations

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Non-subscribers, sign up for a free 30-day Moz Analytics trial and save.

A full-length talk for free!

Last year, we gave away Wil Reynolds’ talk, and this year, we’re continuing in the tradition of giving you a taste of one of the best MozCon talks. The New Yorker‘s Kyle Rush talks about the conversion-rate optimization he did as part of the one of the most famous internet campaigns to-date, Obama for America.

MozCon 2013 free video – Kyle Rush – Win Through Optimization and Testing

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If that doesn’t convince you that these MozCon videos are all that jazz, here’s a really cute kitten hanging with adorable ducks. Or if you’re dance-party excited, we have a super early-bird deal on MozCon 2014 tickets.


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5 Strategic Steps to Big Content

Posted by MackenzieFogelson

Content is an incredibly powerful integrated marketing tool. Among other things, content can:

  • cultivate relationships
  • increase brand trust and credibility
  • build links and domain authority
  • build your audience and your reach
  • grow your community
  • convert the right customers

If you’re using content to accomplish these types of goals for your business, you’re on the right track. But keep in mind that everything you write should serve a higher purpose. It’s not about creating content just to check it off your list of things to do for your marketing. It’s about using content to make a difference for your business.

Stepping into big content

Until recently, all of the content we had created for our brand at Mack Web Solutions had been blog posts, infographics, and slide decks. A few weeks ago we released the biggest piece of content we’d ever written: a 147 page guide on how to build online communities.

What follows is an account of the five major steps we took to release this sucker, what we learned, and the higher purpose this big content has served in our company.

My intention with this post is not to promote our guide. Rather, it’s to document the strategic stages we executed on our first path to big content in hopes of inspiring and informing your own similar journeys.

To date, we’ve had nearly 1,900 downloads and many other indicators of success. It has been quite the effort to pull all of this together. Here’s the strategic tips I’d like to share and a little about how the story goes.


Strategic big content step #1:
Figure out the who



If you’re thinking about investing in big content, definitely figure out the why, but also the who. We wanted our guide to be an accurate representation of the effort required to actually build a community.

We knew that at 147 pages not everyone was going to be willing to put in the work to read it. And that’s OK. We built it for the people who are. They’re the ones who we knew would put it to use.

And so it began

When I was at MozCon 2012, I had breakfast with Jon Henshaw, the co-founder of Raven Tools. I told Jon I was interested in speaking at conferences and wondered how I would begin to build a name for myself and my company in the industry. Jon’s advice was to build a tool and give it away for free.

It took several months before I had any even remotely clever idea that could be developed into a useful tool. I heard the word “tool” and started thinking way too literally. I was trying to come up with an SEO-type tool. Something that would need to be programmed and developed like an app or a plugin. Although that may come in another stage in our company, that just wasn’t going to work with our existing resources. Our tool needed to be something that naturally resonated with what we did, and it also needed to be something we were really passionate about, because we would be spending the next eight months working on it.

Once I thought about it that way, it was kind of a lightbulb moment. The one thing we both do and love the most is building online communities. What better way to help other people and businesses than to develop a “tool” that would help them build their communities?

As I discussed the idea with the team, we knew that if we wanted this tool to really work, that we had to follow the advice we had been giving businesses all along: It couldn’t be about us and what we wanted; it needed to be about our community and what they needed.

Going for it


We decided to redefine “tool” as “guide” and write one as our first piece of big content because:

  1. We wanted to fill a need

    Before we decided to create a community building guide, we did some research and discovered there wasn’t another resource like it. What we were planning on building would add unique value to the community building knowledge that was already out there. Plus, with the pace at which the SEO industry evolves, we knew it would be something that would serve SEOs, marketers, agencies, and businesses who were trying to keep up with the evolution and think beyond keywords and Google’s algorithms.

  2. We wanted to drive a movement

    Not only did we want to begin establishing our company as a leader in the industry, but we wanted to begin changing the way companies look at and value marketing. 
Our philosophy is that marketing efforts most certainly can accomplish company-wide goals and bring in revenue. But they can also change the way you run your business and engage with and cultivate a community of lifelong customers. We thought this guide would be a baby step in that direction.

  3. We wanted to provide an experience
    
Not only did we want to have a strong resource that would assist us in moving potential clients further down the funnel, but we also wanted this resource to be something that indirectly told the story of what it’s like to work with us. We wanted this guide to make a statement about our expertise, personality, quality of product, drive, level of service, and commitment to helping businesses reach their goals.

So who is your who? If you’re thinking about big content, whom do you really want to get your message in front of? Whom do you really want to connect with? What are your values and philosophies and how can you communicate that in your big content so that you’re attracting the right audience with your efforts?

Strategic big content step #2:
Focus on relationships


I’d definitely recommend using LaunchRock in your pre-planning efforts for big content, but even more important would be to build relationships. Not just for the sake of getting more people engaged with your big content, but to make some valuable friends.

I didn’t realize the power of this until the guide had launched.

The whole time we were building the guide, we were focusing on growing the email list via LaunchRock. Every blog post we wrote, every conference I spoke at, every chance we had we were asking people to go sign up for our guide. And in the end, we had 343 people who chose to be on that list. That’s really great for our first go at this, and for the size of our community, but we certainly were hoping for a bigger splash.

What made the most difference in the reach of the guide wasn’t necessarily the people on the email list. It was the people we had built relationships with during the 8 months leading up to its launch. So, instead of 343 people downloading the guide in the first week of the launch, we had more than 1,200.

It was really humbling to watch the effect of relationships on social media. The amplification of your efforts can be pretty remarkable if you’ve made the effort to actually care about people and be genuinely interested in what they’re doing (rather than always working on furthering your own cause). There’s no scientific way we can quantify this, but I know it’s made an enormous difference in the guide’s success.

Yes or no


So when we had decided on a guide, we took Distilled’s lead on their pre-outreach efforts with DistilledU and built a LaunchRock page. Essentially, the purpose of LaunchRock is to gauge interest, but also to build an email list that becomes your first marketing audience once your product is finished. For this project, the team decided that if we received 100 signups it would be worth building.

Within the first few weeks, we hit our mark, so it was a go. We then had eight months to build the guide and continue building that list. During the first six months we didn’t do a whole lot to build our list other than referring to the guide indirectly in blog posts, talking about it on social media, and telling people about it at conferences.

What really gave us the boost was our efforts in the final two months leading up to the launch and then once the guide was actually here.

It takes a village

Initially we had set a soft deadline for completion of the guide for the end of summer or early fall. After we put the LaunchRock page up, we created an outline and general schedule for completion, but then let it sit untouched for a couple months. It became pretty clear in the beginning that if we never set a hard deadline, this thing would never see the light of day. 

So in June when we were working through strategic operations and setting company-wide goals, we created a Mack Web Branding initiative and set a hard date for launch on October 15. Setting this goal helped us to get a big picture strategy down, since there was a lot more to do than simply write the guide.

We had a team of six to put this whole thing together, but we also had client work to take care of and a company to grow. So we assigned chunks of the project to each person on the team in order to start making some progress.

The writing chunk


We knew that Courtney (the voice of our brand and our lead content strategist) would do the majority of the writing and compile the first draft of the guide. But we also knew that I had to supply her with the actual bones. So Courtney and I worked together on an outline and agreed to a collaboration schedule.

Courtney lives in Chicago so we made arrangements to have our meetings and communication via email, chat, and G+ hangouts. For the first six months, Courtney and I would check in every few weeks on progress. It really wasn’t until the last 60 days that we would be meeting daily in order to ensure we were going to make our deadline.

(Sounds silly, but we also gave the guide a nickname. You’ll have to read it to get the full story, but when the project started, we didn’t have a title and we all kept calling it different things. So Courtney came up with the pet name, deemed him a llama, and from then on we affectionately referred to the guide as Arthur).

The design chunk

Natalie, our designer, would take on the design portion of the guide. Because Nat wouldn’t be able to design the actual meat of the guide until it was written, she worked on cover pages, section dividers, and promotional art for LaunchRock, social, email marketing, and the website.

The (pre and post) promotion chunk

The rest of the team was assigned to pre- and post-launch promotional stuff, including the re-messaging and re-designing of our website. Things like blog posts, social, video, and email marketing were scheduled and assigned to the team.

There’s no way that any of our big content efforts would have come together if we didn’t have the entire team working together to make it happen. We also never would have made as much of an impact, so soon after its launch, had we not built credibility with friends in the industry. In the end, it’s the latter that means more and will help carry a company further than one piece of big content.


Strategic big content step #3:
Get to that tiny little resting place between done and perfect


I won’t deny that I’m a bit of an over-achieving perfectionist and I certainly drive hard. I really have to work on exercising the just ship it mentality that many companies embrace. That said, there definitely is something to be said about putting in the extra effort to do what’s right for the customer.

We certainly could have left the guide in its original, first-draft, narrative form. And I’m sure people would have loved it all the same. But there would have been a lot more people who didn’t bother to read it.

The extra time we spent on structure, formatting, and design really helped us to improve the user experience and show our readers that they mattered to us. We didn’t want the guide to be stuck on a hard drive and forgotten. We wanted it to be used, applied, iterated, and re-worked. And we knew that wasn’t going to happen in its original state.

This was definitely one of those times where I’m glad we didn’t just ship it. I’m proud of the team for thinking about what would make it better for our readers and making the decision to put in the extra work to make it a better experience.

Addressing hurdles

After we had all the pieces assigned to the team, I worked with Courtney to get her all the bones of the guide. Because I had already written and spoken a great deal about building community on the Moz blog and at conferences, Courtney was able to take those bits and match it to the outline. After she wrote each chapter, I would review and provide feedback. Sounds like a brilliant plan, but as we got closer to our deadline, we ran into some problems.

Stuff was evolving

As Courtney was putting together the first draft of the guide, we were learning a lot as a company. So even though we were technically on schedule with the parts that Courtney had written, by the time I had reviewed the most important part of the guide (the how), it was missing some pretty important pieces that I hadn’t yet written or spoken about. Things that we had discovered to be integral to community building and had learned from experimentation with our company and with our clients.

We didn’t want to release a guide that was outdated as soon as it hit the streets, so just one month before the guide was to launch, we went back to the drawing board in a couple places and did what it took to get those more current pieces incorporated into the guide.

We figured this was going to set us back a bit, but not as much as the structural issues we discovered just weeks before launch.

The first draft was a narrative, not a guide

As Courtney and I worked back and forth with the first draft of the guide, we were really focused on getting the pieces in place which meant we hadn’t paid much attention to the actual shape of the guide and how it would read.

When the team finally read the finished first draft, we all agreed that Courtney had done an amazing job of putting the Mack Web voice to the information in the guide. The problem was that the whole thing read as a narrative instead of a guide. All of the knowledge and pieces were there, but it lacked the actual structure that makes the “how-to” of a guide. Essentially there was no consistent format that would make it easy for the reader to digest and actually apply the information.

At this point, we were 13 days away from launch. I talked with the team and we all agreed that we needed to make the necessary changes to provide a better UX. But in order to not completely re-write the entire guide, we decided that I would provide Courtney with a framework that she could apply in retrospect.

Because time was scarce and we were on such a tight turn around, Courtney and I would piggy-back. For days, as soon as she finished a section, I would go in and do any final edits and get the approved draft over to Natalie to style. We’d communicate all of this through chat:

Courtney, Nat, and I didn’t sleep much in the weeks prior to launch. Re-structuring the guide for UX was a huge feat at that stage in the game. I’m really glad we pulled it off and I’m really glad we put in the extra effort. Based on the feedback, I think our readers appreciated it as well.

Taking the extra time to improve your big content (or anything for that matter) so that your user will have a better experience isn’t about perfection. It’s about going the extra step because you know you should. That’s a reflection on how much you care and who you are as a company. And for us, investing that time was really important.


Strategic big content step #4

Know when to take a break


Big content alone takes so much effort. Then you add all the pre and post promotion to it and you have quite the project. Creating this guide has been incredibly rewarding, but it also has put a tremendous amount of stress on our team and our company.

During the final weeks of getting the guide ready, we pushed incredibly hard. Many of us weren’t sleeping or resting as much as we should have. We were working nights and weekends. And although we were all reminded to take breaks, none of us wanted to because we really just wanted to get the thing done.

So once we finally reached the finish line, the team scheduled a day to take a collective break and celebrate. We left the office and hit the trails. It was a well earned and much needed day.

This day was actually kind of a double victory for me personally. It’s really difficult for me not to drive forward all the time. It takes a concerted effort for me to slow down and bask in our accomplishments. I’ve asked the team to be aware of this and they remind me when it’s time to walk away for a bit.

Getting stuff done

We did all kinds of promotional stuff both leading up to and once the guide launched. Clearly our goal with all of our efforts was to build awareness and increase signups (and eventually downloads) to the guide. This is what we accomplished:

  1. We redesigned our website
    
I know, we’re nuts. We were hoping the guide would drive a whole bunch of traffic to our website and our existing website didn’t really say what we actually did. So, we hunkered down and re-designed and re-messaged all at the same time (and barely lived to tell the tale). 

We also redesigned the site so that we could effectively optimize a page on the website for the guide. We took Moz’s lead on how they structured their Beginner’s Guide to SEO so that it would be easy to access and build links to.

    The day the guide launched, we had nearly 1,200 visits to our site.

    And we also had the same amount of traffic driven the day the guide made the Moz Top 10 (at #8).

    Based on the traffic we received, it was well worth our effort to redesign the site alongside the launch of our big content. Just as we built the guide to be a reflection of what our company was all about, we needed the website to mirror our priorities and personality. A disconnect between the product and the shop wouldn’t have left a very good impression. Having our website, blog, social, and the guide completely aligned with design and messaging seems to have made a big difference in its success.

  2. We created some videos and held a hangout

    For the final weeks leading up to launch, we used our blog to release weekly videos that communicated some key community building takeaways.

    It was our first time with this medium, so lucky for us Tyler had some video background, and we also had Wistia guiding us through a great deal of the pre-planning process.

    The videos were quite successful. We got some great engagement for all five of them. They were really fun to make and it really helped to give our audience a new look at who we were.

    In addition to the videos, we also held a Google+ hangout with some of the best community managers in the search marketing industry. 

The video of the recorded hangout received over 3,300 views. G+ alone brought 36 new guide signups. But more than that, we established new relationships with some pretty great innovators in social and community.

    Our pre-launch efforts with videos and the hangout really helped to boost LaunchRock signups. Prior to those efforts we had 245 signups. At launch we had 343.

  3. We told our clients
    
A few days before the launch, we told our existing clients what was going on (both with the website and the guide). It’s easy to forget about the people who are already in the funnel. They might not care so much about the reading the guide itself since they’ve got us doing that work for them, but an accomplishment and milestone like this builds a whole lot of trust.

    

In addition to spreading the news with our existing clients, I also reached out to potential clients that we had been talking with. Sending personal emails sharing the guide actually helped to get meetings scheduled and move some of those leads further down the funnel.

  4. We got into our community

    The day of the launch the entire team worked to answer tweets, emails, and questions. We made a little breakfast party out of it and it was actually kind of fun. We were all extremely happy to have the guide finally finished and in our readers’ hands.

    Throughout the weeks following the launch of the guide, Ayelet (our community manager) would look for people who had completed the guide and sent them a personal note from Arthur.

As you work on your big content, if at all possible, make sure you leave some padding and schedule in some breaks. Look for places where you can lighten your regular work load (I know I spent less time on social media during the month leading up to launch). Look for parts of the project that you can outsource and bring in some outside help. You certainly don’t want to drive your company into the ground just to launch big content. So be thoughtful of the stress it may cause and do what you can to alleviate the pressure.

Strategic big content step #5

Leverage


There are a ton of ways to squeeze more out of the big content you’ve built. Think of it as a product that you can evolve into blog posts, case studies, or maybe even new tools. Asking your audience is the first step in determining the pieces of value that can spin out of your original creation.

Right now, we’re listening to the reception. We’re talking to people and asking them what they really thought. We’re working on getting tangible feedback and real stories of application. These will be the seeds of what we do next.

Finally on the downhill

The week of the launch was the easy part. Of course there was a lot of excitement. It’s in the weeks and months following the launch of big content that really count. Now that we made the effort, how can we squeeze the most value out of what we’ve already done?

So we’ve got some stuff planned. We’re thinking it would be great to put together an HTML version that we would then update (just like Moz updates their SEO beginner’s guide). That’s a whole beast in itself, but we kind of knew that going into it. Generating the HTML version will also allow us to do any further structural work that we want to do for UX but didn’t have time for in the PDF.

We’re also thinking about doing some additional videos that will allow readers to work along with the guide itself. We can then address questions and challenges our readers have and create additional resources that would supplement the guide (and perhaps embed into the HTML version).

We’d also like to get some testimonials and further develop the landing page of the guide itself. We’re hoping that we’ll continue to build all kinds of links to that page, and if we do, it would most certainly be worth updating and adding more value through social proof and other community building resources.

We just want to make sure we get the most out of the investment we’ve made in big content. And that’s what’s so great about it. If you put in the strategic effort, it becomes an asset. It lives as evergreen content that will organically work for you for years to come.


Totally worth the ride

There are a lot of ways in which our big content continues to pay dividends. Hands down it has given us momentum to move forward and has provided quite the learning experience for our company. Our mistakes this time will lessen the pain next time (and perhaps our story will help you avoid the bruises altogether when it’s your turn).

Big content has also been a source of pride for the whole team and in the whole team. Not to mention all the things we’ve already pointed out: brand awareness, reach, trust, credibility, relationships, authority, and links.

But while we’re certainly not complaining about all of these benefits, they’re just side effects.

The real reason we built the guide—the real reason to put the work into big content—is that we wanted to further the mission of our company, which, in our case, is to help companies build better businesses by building their own communities. Lucky for us, our journey through big content has also made a really big difference in our own company

I’m hoping our story will inspire yours. What big content could you build to serve your company’s higher purpose?


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Last Chance! Take the 2013 Industry Survey #ShareYourVoice

Posted by jennita

Holy wow! Over the past two and half weeks we’ve gathered more than 2,500 responses from marketers across the globe for this year’s Moz Industry Survey. We’d like to send a huge THANK YOU to everyone who’s participated so far.

The thing is, we’d love to get at least 3,000 responses to insure we have a good set of data. We’re planning on closing the survey next week though, so if you haven’t taken it yet, please jump in there now (also, you don’t want to miss out on the killer prizes do you?).

#ShareYourVoice

Yes, while it’s super important for you to take the survey, it’s also essential for you to help us get the word out as well. We’d love to get your help by tweeting, plussing, facebooking, and even vineing (yea, I’m just making stuff up now), to remind folks to get in there.

The other day, I had the crazy idea that I would make a vine of me singing, aka “Sharing my voice” and tweet it out with a link to the Industry Survey. I asked a few other folks to jump in as well, and what happened next was pretty amazing!

Pssst! And if you make one, use the #ShareYourVoice hashtag, and I’ll add it to the page:

We’d love your help spreading the word as well. Would you create a video, image, or even just a tweet and get the word out?

Tweet #ShareYourVoice

Sneak Peek

Now, you didn’t think we’d ask you to help out without showing a bit of data now would you? I thought it was interesting to see the salary range of folks who’ve taken the survey so far. Remember though that people across the globe have taken this and this isn’t taking into account that someone making $30-40k in the US is different to someone making the same thing in another country.

Prizes

Don’t forget we’re giving away some great prizes as well! Cyrus laid it all out in the initial post, but here’s the rundown again:

Grand Prize: Attend MozCon 2014 in Seattle
Including flight, hotel, and lunch with an industry expert.

Two First Prizes: iPad 2

Ten Second Prizes: $100 Amazon.com gift cards

Well, what are you waiting for?


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How to Track the Online ROI of Offline Advertising

Posted by GeoffKenyon

While I love online marketing and often times think that is a much better marketing investment than offline marketing and advertising, offline ads are important and add value. While we are going to see budget shift significantly from offline efforts to online campaigns, there is still going to be a ton of money going into offline ads.

Much of the value from offline advertising is actually online and is typically attributed to the direct channel. If an ad gives out a website URL, they almost always send visitors to their homepage. When ads don’t give users a website to go to, typically one of the search channels will receive credit for the value created by the ad. The KTM ad below is a prime example of a print ad that will create value, but the value will be attributed to either the search channel or direct channel if the user is already aware of (or simply searches for) the URL for KTM.

As you can see below, in 2012 82% of ad-spend was offline; that is a lot of visitors and conversions that aren’t being properly attributed.

This isn’t just a problem for companies with big ad budgets. In fact, this is more important for small businesses with smaller budgets because often times these expenses come out of the owner’s pockets. Real estate agents are probably the best example of why this is so important. If my friend Hailey is a real estate agent and if she wants to market her self and her properties, she has a lot of options. She could advertise on a big real estate site like Zillow, a niche site, through SEO or PPC, and it’s easy for her to track leads from these. It gets harder, though, when she invests in offline efforts like signs, door hangers, print ads, or any other form of offline advertising. Hailey, and almost all real estate agents, are doing their marketing campaigns on a tight budget, so it is critical for real estate agents (and professionals in many other industries) to understand exactly what is producing value and what isn’t.

The good news is that it’s actually pretty easy to figure out which offline ads are helping you and which ones aren’t doing anything.

Create a custom URL for your ads

The first step is to either buy a vanity domain or to create a unique landing page for each offline effort.

Depending on your niche and ad, it can be important to incentivize the user typing in the full URL (and not just stopping once they type in the homepage) if you are not going to use a vanity domain. This can mean offering the user a special promotion or gift. You would want to reinforce the offer with the URL as well, using something like /free-gift or /special-promo.

Set up redirects and campaign parameters

Once you’ve created your vanity domain or landing page, you’ll need to set up a 301 redirect to the page you want visitors to land on (your home page or a specific landing page) AND include Google Analytics campaign parameters (shown below by ?utm=*)

Adding Campaign Tracking Parameters

If you’re not super familiar with Google Analytics, this guide is a good starting point. If you need help creating the campaign URL, the Google URL Builder and GA Config are really useful tools. Keep in mind, while there are five different parameters you can use, the following three are required at minimum:

  • Source – This should be the specific source of the ad and referral such as “Seattle Times,” “For Sale Sign,” “Flier,” etc. The source parameter will allow you to assign conversions to a specific source.
  • Medium – The medium is simply the high-level channel that your effort is part of. Some examples of good mediums would be radio, magazine ad, or TV. When you consistently use the medium attribution parameter, over time, you will be able to see what high-level channels produce the best ROI for you.
  • Campaign name – The campaign name should refer to specific campaign you are running. You can use this to pull together ads across mediums and sources that are part of a larger campaign, or you can differentiate between different campaigns within the same source.

Track your ROI

At this point, you’ve done all the hard work and have everything set up for Google Analytics to be able to track visitors coming to the site from your ads as well as how many people convert in some form. You will be able to find the number of visitors from your ads under the campaigns tab in Google Analytics, and the number of conversions in the Ecommerce, Goals, or Events tab depending on how you are tracking your conversions.

The campaign view in Google Analytics is where you’ll monitor the success of your offline campaigns.

With this in place you will be able to better invest your offline marketing budget knowing that the channels and campaigns are going to give you the best online ROI.


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4 Conversations That Don’t Involve Rank Reports – Whiteboard Friday

Posted by Dana DiTomaso

With personalization and (not provided) keywords, there’s been plenty of debate in recent months over the value of keyword rankings in today’s world of marketing. It’s important to remember, though, that there are many ways of showing success without even mentioning keyword rankings.

In today’s Whiteboard Friday, Dana DiTomaso tells us about a few important conversations we can have regardless of our (or our clients’) opinions on rank reports.

Conversations that Don’t Involve Rank Reports – Whiteboard Friday

For reference, here’s a still of this week’s whiteboard:

Video transcription

Howdy Moz fans. I’m not Rand today. I’m Dana DiTomaso from Kick Point, and I presented at MozCon about next-level local SEO tactics. One of the things that I talked about and one of the things people asked me about, I said, this was a little throwaway comment, “Don’t have conversations with your clients that end in rank reports, because it ends up in a bad conversation, and it focuses on the wrong kind of metric.” People at the party afterwards said to me, “That’s nice, Dana, but seriously we have clients, and they want rank reports. So what are we supposed to do?”

So today I am doing a Whiteboard Friday on conversations with clients that don’t end in a rank report, because I feel like this is a really important way for our industry to move. It’s a really important conversation you need to learn how to have, and if you come armed with all this stuff, when you go meet with a client, eventually when you get to the end and you drag them through this process, they’re going to love you forever. I promise. I promise. If it doesn’t work, then I will send you Smarties, which are delicious chocolate treats from Canada. I promise, just e-mail me.

So we’re going to start with things that we talk to clients about when we start working with them. The first thing is I say to them, “How much new business do you want?” Before they say to me, “Oh, I’m not showing up in the map, or I’m not ranking for these phrases,” I say, “How much new business can your company take in, say, the next month?”

These are actually real numbers from one of our real clients. So this isn’t me just making up some crap. So they said to me, “I can take 200 new customers.” It’s a service-based business. So they really do have an upper ceiling on how much new business they can take before they run out of people and they have to hire again. Okay, so 200.

Now I say, “So how many calls and people walking in,” and it’s a medical industry. It’s not a lot of people who walk in, but they mostly get phone calls. How many new calls do they get now? They said, “Well, we track.”
They’re good at tracking. If your client isn’t good at tracking, then get them good at tracking. Then they say, “Okay, we got a 148 calls now.”

So I know that from the number of people who sign up with them, I say, “How many people who call actually make an appointment?” They say, “Well, it’s about 80%.” Okay, so that means that you have 118 new leads.

Okay, so you have 118 new leads that you get, and they look in their numbers and they say, “Yeah, that seems about right. That seems cool.” So then I take a look at their website visits for the previous month, for the previous time period, unique, not all visitors, just unique visitors, and I say, “This is how many you unique visitors you got. It was 3,904. So that means that you have about a 3% conversion rate from the number of people who go to your website to the number of people who sign up for your stuff.”

So now we have a number that we can work with. Then I say, “Okay, so if you want to hit 200 pieces of new business, that means that you have to get 250 calls or walk-ins”—perhaps another business, not this one—”which means that you need to get 6,700 visits to your website.”

So this is when we say, “Based on the amount of budget that you’d like to give with us, we don’t recommend that you’re going to hit this number in this first month.” So then we can figure out a plan with them and say,
“Okay, so next month we’re going to start with PPC. We’re going to do some AdWords, because that’s going to convert really well for you, and you really want to get new business in right away. So let’s do some AdWords.”

Then the next month, we’re working on the map stuff in the meantime, and then we can create a plan for them on when we think we’re going to hit these 6,700 visits, when we think that number’s going to happen. Then they know how many months to expect of return.

Then we can also find out from them, “How much is each one of these 118 people worth to you? How much are you willing to spend per lead to get those people in the door?” Then you can also take the math and break that out and determine your ROI for your business. So if you charge them a certain amount each month, which is how we do it, it’s a monthly retainer type project, then we know the exact ROI and the exact cost per lead. So we can say to the client, “Hey, we’re actually making you money.” Then they just keep paying the bills because we’re actually making them money. We’re not costing them any money.

The second part of this is what you report on. So how do you get to these 6,700 visits? We break out all of our reports into five channels. We say how much organic traffic you got, how much paid, how much referral, how much social, how much direct. We show them just the unique visitor counts, and then we try to break down the conversions, although not every website has strong conversions.

Sometimes we can’t say, “Okay, you got X number of calls via social.” We don’t necessarily know that. If we have call tracking set up, we can tell some of that. But it’s not foolproof, obviously, like maybe somebody came via your Facebook page, and then they bookmarked the site, and then they called later. So of course it’s only going to reflect as a social visit, but whatever. So that’s why these raw numbers are so important. You can’t track everything, but you can try to track most of the things.

The other part of social, specifically, actually is a lot of really small businesses say, “Yeah, this social thing, I don’t understand. It’s boring, it’s stupid, and only kids are on Facebook. My clients aren’t on Facebook, and I don’t need social.” So we start reporting on social, and there’s a really nice piece of regex that you can use to break out your social visits. Do not include them in the referral traffic. Make sure to break them out as their own separate channel.

Make sure that when you report on social, if you’re getting a lot of social visits, just tell them about it and say, “Hey, I know you’re not doing anything on social right now, but you’re getting a lot of social traffic.”
Or maybe if they’re a home builder, for example, maybe they’re getting Pinterest traffic, or from House.com, which is new house new social network. You say to them, “I know you’re not on any of these places, but people are already coming to your website from it, and they’re converting. So maybe we can put some effort in. Just imagine the amount of business that you would get.” You say, “It would be this much extra each month for us to help you with your social strategies.” This is a good business development tip for you.

Then the last thing that pulls all of this together, and this is another throwaway in my presentation, a lot of people say, “Well, advertising agencies, how do I work with these people?” Part of it is just helping them be better at their job and helping them show that what they’re doing is actually making money.

So you don’t want to go into a client and say, “That advertising company you’re paying all that money to, that stuff is crap. Forget them. You’ve got to go with this SEO stuff instead.” Then you make enemies instead of making friends.

So what we do is we say, “Tell us about all the advertising you’re doing right now, all your print ads, all your radio. Who is doing it? How are you tracking it?” They’ll say, “Well, we have a print ad in the local newspaper, and we do a radio ad on this radio station, which is right in with our demographic.” ‘I’ll say, “That’s great. What I would like to do is I would like to put some call tracking around that, so when you have the ad, and this is, ‘We’re awesome, you should call us, visit our awesomecompany.com, or call number,'” instead it would say, “Visit our awesomecompany.com/radio station name, or this magical call tracking number.”

So people do call from radio. I know they’re usually in their car, totally breaking the law that you’re not supposed to use your cell phones. But they do call. If they visit the website, set up a landing page. It doesn’t have to be like a crazy PPC landing page, where you rip out the navigation and everything else. Just a landing page that says, “Hey, radio station listener.”

In our hometown we have Sonic, so if it’s like our awesomecompany.com/sonic, that’s like a new alternative rock station. So if they visit Sonic, then we know the type of listener who’s coming, and then we can write the content in a way that makes sense to that listener. We know how the DJs are on that radio station, so we can match the tone of the content to match the tone of the person who probably came because they heard the ad on Sonic. We know you’re not listening to classical. You’re listening to Pearl Jam. So we know the kind of music that you like, what type of person that you are, and we can write that content for you. It says basically, “Howdy, Sonic listener, here’s the stuff that we think you should know in order to call. Here’s the information you want to arm yourself with. Hey, give us a call, or fill out this form.” There’s your conversion tactic there. So we can see how many visits we got to that web page.

Then what you do is you talk to your radio rep or your media buyer, or whoever else the client is working with, and you say, “Can I get the media blocking chart?” This tells you when the ad is running. If it’s from the radio station, for example, they can tell you after it’s been done or what hours it was played in. So maybe they decided to only run the ad from 4:00 p.m. to 10:00 p.m., for example. Then in that case, you can take a look at your analytics on an hourly basis and compare: Did we get more direct and organic visits—this is typically the two that radio converts to—during those times?

You can’t tell with a direct visit if they didn’t go to that fancy URL, if they just typed in the main URL, or if they organically typed in the name of your client and then went to the site. So maybe it’s a brand new visit. More likely it’s just not provided for this particular client, where these numbers in the example, they’re actually up to 50% of not provided now, and I think it’s just a lot of cell phone visits.

So we take a look at these metrics. We compare it to the hours in their media blocking chart, and then we know approximately how much benefit they’re receiving as a result of radio. Then you look good, because you’re able to take an offline piece of advertising and turn it into an online metric, that is a conversion metric for the client, and the radio station looks great, because, “Hey, look at this, now we actually know how much benefit you’re getting from radio, which is a really difficult thing.”

Then because the radio station likes you, radio station reps are actually super friendly. You should make friends with them. They usually have like free swags and stuff and tickets to things. But the other thing is that they work with a lot of small businesses who first turn to radio. They’re not calling you, they’re calling the radio station because they think radio works, and for some clients it does. It really depends.

But that radio rep will say, “Hey, do you have a website? We want to mention your website in the ad.” The company will say, “No, I don’t know about this web thing.” The radio station will say, “I’m working with this amazing company, and they have done this great tracking for one of our other clients, and look at what they’ve done, and look at the stuff they can report on.” They’ll say, “That’s amazing. I clearly need to spend all my money on these services, except for the money we’re going to spend on radio.” Then you get new business out of it.

Somebody asked on the last day, “How do you get a seat at the table with the advertisers?” It’s by playing nice with them. It’s by saying to them, “Look, I know that you can’t do this level of tracking with the offline advertising to the actual leads, but I bet you can, and I’m going to teach you how. But I’m also going to show everything and how it relates to the client, all the pieces and how it all comes together.” Then when you, as the business, as your consultant, when you report on this, that turns into this complete marketing reporting for the client, and they love this. They get really excited about it. Like when I give a client a report and I say, “Look at this, your cost per lead went down two bucks,” that’s really exciting for a client.” They think, “Wow, this company is making even more money for me. What would happen if I gave them more money? Then what happens when I refer my friends to them to make more business?” It’s a way to make a rapport that turns into a business building tactic for you.

I hope you find this helpful. Again, if you didn’t, e-mail me and I’ll give you some Smarties. Thanks.

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